Vanessa Toves is a Microsoft 365 Solutions Architect and a recognized Microsoft MVP. She has worked with Microsoft enterprise technologies since the first versions of SharePoint on-premises, Microsoft’s BI suite, and SQL Server, making her instrumental in driving Microsoft 365 adoption for large organizations. Currently serving as a Microsoft subject matter expert for Druva, Vanessa works seamlessly across departments—from sales to engineering—to ensure the security of customer data. She is also an avid speaker and thought leader on cyber resilience.

Vanessa Toves is a Microsoft 365 Solutions Architect and a recognized Microsoft MVP. She has worked with Microsoft enterprise technologies since the first versions of SharePoint on-premises, Microsoft’s BI suite, and SQL Server, making her instrument... Show more

Elkhan is a cloud architect, tech trainer, and mentor with experience in Microsoft Azure, AWS, IBM Cloud, and enterprise healthcare systems.
He is an active Microsoft MVP and MCT Regional Lead, a member of the Microsoft Tech Community, and an Azure SME (Architecture, DevOps, Security) - who is leading the cloud and infrastructure group at T-REX Solutions.

He is a community speaker and has volunteered for local and global events; Global Azure, Cloud Lunch and Learn, Azure Back to School, Azure Spring Clean, Festive Tech Calendar, Give Camps, Azure Data Fest, SQL Saturdays, Cyber Back to School, Come cloud with Us, and others.

Over the years, Elkhan proudly contributed to Microsoft Azure, Security, and HL7 FHIR communities to advance data interoperability, secure design, and help communities move forward.

Elkhan is a cloud architect, tech trainer, and mentor with experience in Microsoft Azure, AWS, IBM Cloud, and enterprise healthcare systems. He is an active Microsoft MVP and MCT Regional Lead, a member of the Microsoft Tech Community, and an Azure ... Show more

• Software and Solutions Architect with more than 20 years of experience designing and implementing enterprise, mission-critical solutions.

• Extensive experience building agents and AI-based solutions with Python using LangChain/LangGraph, Google ADK, Microsoft Agent Framework, and Java using LangChain4J, Spring AI, LangGraph4J, and Tribuo (Machine Learning). Deep knowledge of AI-related concepts, including vector search, RAG workflows, context engineering, SDD, and agentic protocols such as MCP and A2A. Experience with several LLM models and SDKs such as OpenAI, Anthropic, Google Gemini, Cohere, Meta, xAI, NVIDIA and open-source models.

• Certified Java professional with expert-level knowledge and experience in Java, using Spring Boot, Jakarta EE, Hibernate, GraalVM, Micronaut, and Helidon. Front-end (JavaScript, Typescript, React), APIs (GraphQL, REST, JSON, XML), and tools such as VS Code, OpenAI Codex, Cline, and Claude Code. Relational, NoSQL, and vector databases.

• Master’s degree in DevOps, with extensive experience in SRE and IT Infrastructure projects (several awards), Terraform, Ansible, containers, Kubernetes, and cloud using Oracle Cloud, Microsoft Azure, IBM Cloud, AWS, and GCP. Other DevOps-related tools I’ve worked with are GitHub Actions, Azure DevOps, CI/CD, PowerShell, Maven, Gradle, YAML, and Jenkins. Linux, IBM zLinux, AIX, and Windows operating systems.

• I have extensive experience with large enterprise systems and environments with companies like Oracle, Microsoft, IBM, Unisys, Nokia, Accenture, and a few medium-sized companies and startups (two as a founder). I have mastered presenting to technical and non-technical audiences and engaging the C-Level in technology and business transformation journeys.

• From a leadership and management standpoint, I have held senior leadership roles in software engineering and developer relations, focusing on developer audiences, subject-matter experts, customers, and business partners. I have also served as a mentor for Microsoft for Startups, working with startup founders, accelerators, incubators, mentors, and venture capitalists.

• I have received many awards, such as Oracle Customer Excellence 2025, Oracle ACE Mentor 2022, IBM Technical RockStar for Cloud, IBM Redbooks Thought Leader and Evangelist for IBM Mobile, Nokia Developer Champion, IBM Manager’s Choice Award, Superior Community Service Contributions—Forum Nokia Wiki, IBM Hall of Fame Awards, IBM Common Development and Test Outstanding Contribution Awards, and IBM Mobile Enterprise Social Media Residency Outstanding Contributor.

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• Software and Solutions Architect with more than 20 years of experience designing and implementing enterprise, mission-critical solutions. • Extensive experience building agents and AI-based solutions with Python using LangChain/LangGraph, Google... Show more

Heini is a math teacher turned Azure expert. With her background in mathematics and teaching, she has a great passion for problem solving, simplifying complex things and a unique approach to architectures.
She is a Co-founder at Bruvo and a Data Platform MVP, specializing in Azure infrastructure and the data platform. She has been working with customers large and small for the past several years to help them sort out their path to the cloud and make sense of their architecture - both hybrid and cloud. She has worked extensively with both Azure infrastructure and analytics solutions, and makes the most of this skillset in her projects, as well as while speaking. On her free time Heini spends time in the nature, either snowboarding or mountain biking, depending on the season.

Heini is a math teacher turned Azure expert. With her background in mathematics and teaching, she has a great passion for problem solving, simplifying complex things and a unique approach to architectures. She is a Co-founder at Bruvo and a Data Pla... Show more

From Granada (Spain). Google Developer Expert in Google Cloud and GDG Organizer. Always trying to learn and sharing with the community.

I spend my time working on the OpenTelemetry project! Do you want to learn more? Ping me!

From Granada (Spain). Google Developer Expert in Google Cloud and GDG Organizer. Always trying to learn and sharing with the community. I spend my time working on the OpenTelemetry project! Do you want to learn more? Ping me! Show more

Daniel Laskewitz is a Principal Cloud Advocate at Microsoft. Half of his week goes into Copilot Studio, Copilot Cowork, Scout, GitHub Copilot and Microsoft 365 Copilot, usually with something unfinished open on screen. The other half he spends with the people building the same things, in sessions and workshops and in the community, and what they tell him goes back to the product teams.

On stage he talks about getting an agent past the demo. Wiring it to real systems with MCP, working out when a plain connector is the better answer, and the part nobody puts in a keynote: making the thing safe to hand to somebody else. He has been speaking since 2015, often with a co-speaker.

Daniel Laskewitz is a Principal Cloud Advocate at Microsoft. Half of his week goes into Copilot Studio, Copilot Cowork, Scout, GitHub Copilot and Microsoft 365 Copilot, usually with something unfinished open on screen. The other half he spends with t... Show more

Director of Technology for the Private Sector at Kerv Digital and a nine-time Microsoft MVP specialising in Dynamics 365, Power Platform and Copilot Studio. With more than 20 years’ experience, I help organisations connect technology decisions with business needs, combining solution architecture with a practical focus on user adoption and change management.

I am a Microsoft Certified Trainer and a regular speaker at conferences across the UK, Europe and North America. I help lead the Dynamics 365 and Power Platform User Group community in the UK.

My sessions draw on real projects, with practical advice on building useful solutions, helping people embrace change and making effective use of AI.

Director of Technology for the Private Sector at Kerv Digital and a nine-time Microsoft MVP specialising in Dynamics 365, Power Platform and Copilot Studio. With more than 20 years’ experience, I help organisations connect technology decisions with b... Show more

Active in the IT industry since 2012, Leo Visser is a Subject Matter Expert for Azure and AI Foundry at BBTG. He advises organizations on AI, automation, and cloud architecture, combining tools like PowerShell, Power Platform, Azure Logic Apps, and native Azure services. His work strongly focuses on security, sustainability, and long-term value. Leo is a Microsoft PowerShell MVP.

Active in the IT industry since 2012, Leo Visser is a Subject Matter Expert for Azure and AI Foundry at BBTG. He advises organizations on AI, automation, and cloud architecture, combining tools like PowerShell, Power Platform, Azure Logic Apps, and n... Show more

Jan Vidar Elven is a Senior Cloud Platform & Security Architect working at Microsoft Partner Evidi AS in Norway. He is a Microsoft MVP in Security, an active speaker and blogger, and has more than 25 years’ experience inside IT infrastructure management and architecting solutions, working with Cloud & Datacenter, specializing in Azure, Microsoft Entra, Active Directory, Enterprise Mobility, Identity & Access Management, Identity Governance, Service Management, Operations Management and Automation cross On-Premise and Azure environments.

Jan Vidar Elven is a Senior Cloud Platform & Security Architect working at Microsoft Partner Evidi AS in Norway. He is a Microsoft MVP in Security, an active speaker and blogger, and has more than 25 years’ experience inside IT infrastructure managem... Show more

An AI Specialist and Wizard at Leading EDJE who is known to teach software engineering, AI, and data science concepts in the most ridiculous ways possible. Matthew-Hope has used machine learning to settle debates over whether Die Hard is a Christmas movie, reinforcement learning to drive the behavior of digital squirrels, data analytics to suggest improvements to his favorite TV show, and AI agents to play board games and create an AI agent with the personality of a dog. Matthew-Hope is the author of "Practical C# Projects with .NET", "Refactoring with C#", and "Data Science in .NET with Polyglot Notebooks", several entries in the Game AI Uncovered anthology, and a pair of LinkedIn Learning courses. They help organize the Central Ohio .NET Developer Group, run several blogs and a YouTube channel, and hold a Master’s of Science in Data Analytics and a growing number of Microsoft MVP awards.

An AI Specialist and Wizard at Leading EDJE who is known to teach software engineering, AI, and data science concepts in the most ridiculous ways possible. Matthew-Hope has used machine learning to settle debates over whether Die Hard is a Christmas ... Show more

With a passion for enhancing organizational effectiveness through digitalization and process optimization, Tomasz brings extensive expertise as a seasoned Business Analyst. As a distinguished Microsoft Power Platform expert, recognized with the Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) title and multiple certifications, including Microsoft Certified Trainer (MCT), Tomasz possesses a robust analytical acumen. With proficiency in SharePoint, Nintex, Webcon, and other process implementation tools, Tomasz continuously updates his knowledge to deliver cutting-edge solutions and shares insights with both clients and technical communities.

Renowned for crafting user-friendly business processes and applications, Tomasz prioritizes simplicity and reliability, ensuring seamless adoption and comprehension. As a dedicated co-organizer of community events in Poland and an active blogger, Tomasz contributes actively to the technical community and serves as an esteemed international speaker.

With a passion for enhancing organizational effectiveness through digitalization and process optimization, Tomasz brings extensive expertise as a seasoned Business Analyst. As a distinguished Microsoft Power Platform expert, recognized with the Micro... Show more

I am a Senior Platform Engineer and AI Leader dedicated to evolving the way we build software.

With over a decade of experience in Kubernetes and CI/CD, I now focus on Context Engineering, forming the needed connections between raw infrastructure and agentic workflows.

Beyond engineering, I’m a keynote and public speaker at global conferences including Devoxx London, KubeCon North America, and DevOpsDays NYC—speaking about developer experience, AI, and Star Wars.
May the Force be with you.

I am a Senior Platform Engineer and AI Leader dedicated to evolving the way we build software. With over a decade of experience in Kubernetes and CI/CD, I now focus on Context Engineering, forming the needed connections between raw infrastructure... Show more

Nicola Paro is a Solution Architect with over 10 years of experience in the industry, with a special focus on the Industrial IoT environment. He is passionate about software development, primarily using .NET, Blazor, and AI technologies.

Nicola Paro is a Solution Architect with over 10 years of experience in the industry, with a special focus on the Industrial IoT environment. He is passionate about software development, primarily using .NET, Blazor, and AI technologies. Show more

Lian always wanted to save the world. After leaving law school, she decided to work with computers instead.
While in Web Dev, she started attending tech events, and soon fell in love with the community. In her roles as Consultant and DevRel, Lian combined technical knowledge with a focus on the human side.
Currently, Lian works as freelance Platform Engineer in Amsterdam and is the Chief Karaoke Officer for Kuberoke, the first and only Kubernetes Karaoke Community. She also enjoys performing in musical improvisation theatre and standup comedy shows.

Lian always wanted to save the world. After leaving law school, she decided to work with computers instead. While in Web Dev, she started attending tech events, and soon fell in love with the community. In her roles as Consultant and DevRel, Lian c... Show more

Stas Lebedenko is a full-stack cloud architect and platform engineer at Eficode. He is also a co-organizer of the Odesa Microsoft. NET User Group, a speaker and author, and an active member of the international and Ukraine .NET/Azure/Operations communities. He has been building and designing software for the last twenty years and has been the Microsoft Azure Most Valuable Professional since 2020.

Stas Lebedenko is a full-stack cloud architect and platform engineer at Eficode. He is also a co-organizer of the Odesa Microsoft. NET User Group, a speaker and author, and an active member of the international and Ukraine .NET/Azure/Operations commu... Show more

Yves Habersaat is a Business Applications Consultant and AI Tech Lead at Sword Group in Switzerland, specializing in building applications and solutions with Microsoft 365, Azure, Dynamics 365, and the Power Platform.

With a strong passion for modern development technologies and application lifecycles, Yves focuses on Microsoft 365 services such as Microsoft Teams, SharePoint Online, OneDrive for Business, Microsoft Viva, and Microsoft Copilot. He possesses expertise in modern development tools including SharePoint Framework (SPFx), Teams SDK, Microsoft Graph, Git, TypeScript, React, Visual Studio, and Azure DevOps.

He actively shares his knowledge and experience through speaking engagements and his blog at www.yhabersaat.ch, always ready to support and assist the community.

Yves Habersaat is a Business Applications Consultant and AI Tech Lead at Sword Group in Switzerland, specializing in building applications and solutions with Microsoft 365, Azure, Dynamics 365, and the Power Platform. With a strong passion for mod... Show more

Dylan Beattie is an independent consultant who has been building data-driven web applications since the 1990s. He’s managed teams, taught workshops, and worked on everything from tiny standalone websites to complex distributed systems. He’s a Microsoft MVP, and he regularly speaks at conferences and user groups all over the world.

Dylan is the creator of the Rockstar programming language, and the founder, vocalist and lead guitarist with The Linebreakers, the world's greatest nerd comedy classic rock disco alt punk covers band.

Dylan Beattie is an independent consultant who has been building data-driven web applications since the 1990s. He’s managed teams, taught workshops, and worked on everything from tiny standalone websites to complex distributed systems. He’s a Microso... Show more

As a Developer Advocate at Neo4j, I help developers harness the power of graph technology and AI. A Microsoft MVP and global speaker at events like TED, Microsoft Build, and WeAreDevelopers, I focus on making complex tech accessible through content, community, and hands-on support. My mission is to connect, empower, and inspire developers to build impactful solutions.

As a Developer Advocate at Neo4j, I help developers harness the power of graph technology and AI. A Microsoft MVP and global speaker at events like TED, Microsoft Build, and WeAreDevelopers, I focus on making complex tech accessible through content, ... Show more

Namrata Agrawal is a technology professional and speaker exploring the intersection of AI, sustainability, and digital innovation. She is passionate about how emerging technologies can solve real-world challenges and create meaningful business and societal impact. Her speaking interests include AI, digital transformation, sustainability, accessibility, emerging technologies, and responsible innovation.

Namrata Agrawal is a technology professional and speaker exploring the intersection of AI, sustainability, and digital innovation. She is passionate about how emerging technologies can solve real-world challenges and create meaningful business and so... Show more

Adriana Villela is a blogger, host of the Geeking Out podcast, CNCF Ambassador, OpenTelemetry Community Manager, and maintainer of the OpenTelemetry End User SIG. By day, she focuses on Observability and OpenTelemetry, as a Principal Developer Advocate at Dynatrace. By night, she climbs walls. She also loves capybaras, because they make her happy.

In past lives, Adriana managed both a Platform Engineering team and Observability Practices team at Tucows. She has also worked at various large-scale enterprises as both an individual contributor and leader, including Bank of Montreal, Ceridian, and Accenture.

Adriana Villela is a blogger, host of the Geeking Out podcast, CNCF Ambassador, OpenTelemetry Community Manager, and maintainer of the OpenTelemetry End User SIG. By day, she focuses on Observability and OpenTelemetry, as a Principal Developer Advoca... Show more

What do I do? I select, I select stars!

Data enthusiast with a mathematics background. Working with SQL Server for over 15 years. Blogger at (bronowski.it).

Not long ago Poland Data Community member, now proud UK Data Platform active member and SotonDataCloud.org leader.

When not working or teaching, learns new things or attends various data/technical conferences and meetups.

Italian Calcio fan and traveller, amateur photographer catching anything that moves.

What do I do? I select, I select stars! Data enthusiast with a mathematics background. Working with SQL Server for over 15 years. Blogger at (bronowski.it). Not long ago Poland Data Community member, now proud UK Data Platform active member and... Show more

Microsoft MVP for Azure & IoT, Senior Cloud Architect and tech enthusiast. Passionate about software architecture and solution design.

During my 13+ years of hands-on experience in Software Engineering, I have primarily focused on .NET-based solutions and Azure as a cloud-services provider. I have worked with pretty much all kinds of applications, from small Windows Forms tools to large-scale enterprise web-based solutions. The more I code, the more I realize that my true passion is solution design and software architecture, regardless of tech-stack and platform.

Sharing knowledge and insights is the finest thing I know and the one thing I love the most in the IT community.

Microsoft MVP for Azure & IoT, Senior Cloud Architect and tech enthusiast. Passionate about software architecture and solution design. During my 13+ years of hands-on experience in Software Engineering, I have primarily focused on .NET-based solut... Show more

Doing AI stuff since before it was cool!
• Developer / DBA / Microsoft Certified Trainer (MCT) focusing on Microsoft's Data Platform, AI, Azure, IoT and Security.
• Developing information and multimedia systems, DBA, project and IT management, for over 27 years.
• Speaker with over 350+ sessions delivered since 2015 at international conferences and community events (mostly in-person before pandemic times) on multiple technologies, Internet Governance and Human Rights, as well as volunteer and moderator.
• Organiser and founder at technical communities: IT Pro Portugal, PowerShell Portugal, Data Community Portugal, and multiple other online communities such as IPv6 Portugal, DNSSEC Portugal, etc.
• Organiser of technical events: Global AI Bootcamp Lisboa, Global Power Platform Bootcamp Lisboa, Ctrl-Alt-Shell, Ctrl-Alt-Xmas, Global Diversity CFP Day Lisboa, Power BI Roadshow Lisboa, Programar Saturday, Community Evenings, etc.
• Go to https://Andy.PT and you'll know the same as the NSA...

Note: The sessions listed below have been presented in at least one or more events. The list of events below only includes Sessionize-driven events.

Doing AI stuff since before it was cool! • Developer / DBA / Microsoft Certified Trainer (MCT) focusing on Microsoft's Data Platform, AI, Azure, IoT and Security. • Developing information and multimedia systems, DBA, project and IT management, for ... Show more

Vivek Yadav is building Ocean, an AI-native developer platform, and is a Google Developer Expert for Flutter and Dart. He builds tools for AI-assisted software development, including Falcon, an open-source Rust-based analyzer for Flutter and Dart, and Ambient, a macOS app that surfaces coding-agent status. His work spans mobile application architecture, developer experience, and agent tooling. He speaks about practical approaches to building, reviewing, and shipping software with AI.

Vivek Yadav is building Ocean, an AI-native developer platform, and is a Google Developer Expert for Flutter and Dart. He builds tools for AI-assisted software development, including Falcon, an open-source Rust-based analyzer for Flutter and Dart, an... Show more

Back in 2010 I began my career in IT.
After a brief stint as ERP Consultant, I transitioned into Data Realm.

Over the years, I explored the world of data from various perspectives, working both as a DBA and a Analytics & AI Architect.

I'm a Microsoft Certified Professional at different levels in databases, BI and Azure areas.

Microsoft MVP for Data Platform category x5 and Microsoft Fabric Super User x2.

I'm one of the leaders of Power BI User Group in Italy and I'd been speaker during the Power Platform World Tour and Global Power Platform Bootcamp stops in Italy.

You can find me speaking at Azure Saturday, SQL Saturday, Data Saturday, and other community events across Europe.

I served as a technical reviewer for the books “Extending Power BI with Python and R”, "Microsoft Power BI Quick Start Guide" and “Power BI Cookbook, 3rd Edition”.

Last but not least, Hard Rock and Heavy Metal addicted!

Back in 2010 I began my career in IT. After a brief stint as ERP Consultant, I transitioned into Data Realm. Over the years, I explored the world of data from various perspectives, working both as a DBA and a Analytics & AI Architect. I'm a Mi... Show more

Tracy, a Senior SQL Developer with Abarca Health, juggles SQL queries and civic responsibilities. When she isn't busy exchanging banter with databases, Tracy amplifies her impact in the real world. Her dedication to the NC Guardian ad Litem program since 2003 has been louder than any keynote speech, providing a voice for the voiceless foster children. SQL Server might be her day job, but it's clear that her heart beats for these kids. She's not just a member but an active voice on several councils and boards, defending those with mental illness and foster families. A Day in the Life of Tracy: from data architect to architect of change!

Tracy, a Senior SQL Developer with Abarca Health, juggles SQL queries and civic responsibilities. When she isn't busy exchanging banter with databases, Tracy amplifies her impact in the real world. Her dedication to the NC Guardian ad Litem program s... Show more

Security consultant with a focus on Microsoft Security either on-prem or in the cloud, and a blueteamer at heart. Viktor has worked within IT for the past 10 years always within Cyber Security. Working for public sector in Sweden for years but now as a specialist at Truesec AB focusing on proactive security measures, DFIR and advises on all things cyber.

Security consultant with a focus on Microsoft Security either on-prem or in the cloud, and a blueteamer at heart. Viktor has worked within IT for the past 10 years always within Cyber Security. Working for public sector in Sweden for years but now as... Show more

Chirag is an Independent Consultant & Trainer at Patel Consulting, based in London UK, focusing on enabling secure & compliant collaboration and productivity solutions in organisations using Generative AI, Microsoft 365 and Purview technologies.

With over 25 years of experience in technology professional services and training delivery, Chirag’s career spans from database development & administration, implementing collaboration & information management solutions to cloud deployments & migrations. Key roles include, Product Owner, Solution Architect & Engineer specialising hands-on delivery of technical solutions with demonstrated results in designing & implementing secure, reliable, scalable and fault tolerant mission critical enterprise solutions. Chirag’s contributions extends to various channels and partners on practical consultancy, classroom training, and personalised training with clients in many sectors, he establishes himself as leader and problem solver on projects for broad adoption of tech and is also a regular speaker at community events.

Chirag holds MSc in Business Systems Analysis & Design and is a Microsoft Certified Trainer (MCT), TOGAF Certified Architect, BCS Chartered IT Professional and a recipient of Microsoft MVP award every year since 2020. He is also an Approved Chartered Membership Assessor at BCS (British Computer Society).

Chirag is an Independent Consultant & Trainer at Patel Consulting, based in London UK, focusing on enabling secure & compliant collaboration and productivity solutions in organisations using Generative AI, Microsoft 365 and Purview technologies. W... Show more

Bob Ward is a Principal Architect for the Microsoft Azure Data team, which owns the development for Microsoft SQL, Azure Database for PostgreSQL, and Azure HorizonDB. Bob has worked for Microsoft for 32+ years on every version of SQL Server shipped from OS/2 1.1 to SQL Server 2025 including Azure SQL and SQL database in Fabric. Bob is a well-known speaker on SQL Server, Azure SQL, AI, Microsoft Fabric, and Azure PostgreSQL often presenting talks on new releases, internals, and specialized topics at events such as SQLBits, Microsoft Build, Microsoft Ignite, PASS Summit, FabCon, SQLCon, and VS Live. You can follow him at @bobwardms or linkedin.com/in/bobwardms. Bob is the author of the books Pro SQL Server on Linux, SQL Server 2019 Revealed, Azure SQL Revealed, SQL Server 2022 Revealed, Azure SQL Revealed 2nd Edition, and SQL Server 2025 Unveiled available from Apress Media.

Bob Ward is a Principal Architect for the Microsoft Azure Data team, which owns the development for Microsoft SQL, Azure Database for PostgreSQL, and Azure HorizonDB. Bob has worked for Microsoft for 32+ years on every version of SQL Server shipped f... Show more

Inspired by those in the community that have gone before me, I try to share what I learn by looking at what the services from Microsoft can offer, understanding challenges people have and bringing those two things together. Having learned from 13 years in Financial Services, I moved into the world of consulting and am currently acting as Associate Director, owning Copilot and Agents within the UK at Avanade.

I am lucky enough to have been awarded as a Microsoft MVP in Microsoft 365 for Copilot and Copilot Extensibility and co-host the award winning Copilot Connection podcast as well as blogging and sharing videos.

Inspired by those in the community that have gone before me, I try to share what I learn by looking at what the services from Microsoft can offer, understanding challenges people have and bringing those two things together. Having learned from 13 yea... Show more